tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post1693794628996746061..comments2023-04-10T03:20:23.344-05:00Comments on HanLeiaFanFicWriters: Paradise Snare...The ReviewZyrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-2885526320131123592014-03-30T10:47:06.504-05:002014-03-30T10:47:06.504-05:00Thanks, I will! :DThanks, I will! :Dweasellehttp://fishstix.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-57266392373445419502014-03-19T10:59:34.192-05:002014-03-19T10:59:34.192-05:00Hey, welcome to the blog. I'm glad you liked ...Hey, welcome to the blog. I'm glad you liked the review and you are so right in your points. The entire relationship seems based on nothing. But again, he's 18. <br /><br />I hope you stick around for a while and feel free to use some of these book reviews to choose the best books to read!Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-11972059013507104392014-03-19T10:46:04.183-05:002014-03-19T10:46:04.183-05:00Well, this is my first foray into the EU with the ...Well, this is my first foray into the EU with the exception of Brian Daley's Han Solo Adventures trilogy, which maybe isn't considered canon IIRC. I think 3 or maybe 3.5 stars, too. Here's the thing: since I haven't read anything else in the EU, I don't have personal issues with Bria at this time. That having been said, it is kind of annoying how Han talks to Pilgrim 921 like twice, and then, wham, he realizes he cares about what happens to her as much as he does about himself, or some such line. Wait a second... why? Just a couple chapters earlier, we learned that Han couldn't allow himself to care much about others: "it was self-preservation, and Han was very, very good at it." <br /><br />I mean, if we had gotten to spend a bit of time with her first so we could see what he saw in her, okay, and as some of you have pointed out, he was like 18, so infatuation was perfectly possible. But please, a little more fuel for this fire!<br /><br />As for the intimacy between them, it was very clear. The morning Bria leaves him, he recalls how she had held him "with such passion" and realizes it was because she knew it was the last time. But that's about as explicit as it gets. <br /><br />Overall, the story was okay, the writing was okay, even the Chewie-substitute Muuurgh was okay, but that's because we were back in the Star Wars universe, and I'll forgive some silliness for the sake of reading about one of my favorite characters. I did enjoy the book for that reason. If it had been about Lando, say, I certainly wouldn't have bothered. As it is, I do plan to feed my Han obsession by continuing with the next novel in the series.weasellehttp://fishstix.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-90815981704084218572011-09-19T20:56:39.390-05:002011-09-19T20:56:39.390-05:00Thanks for the heads up, Emma. I did see that and...Thanks for the heads up, Emma. I did see that and just loved it! This is the url: <br /><br />http://www.bluemilkspecial.com/?p=4317<br /><br />for anyone else that is interested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-43638103451769033092011-09-19T20:54:12.068-05:002011-09-19T20:54:12.068-05:00This has nothing to do with the book (sorry) but I...This has nothing to do with the book (sorry) but I just found a picture on f***yeah Han and Leia from a blue milk special. Push, if you haven't seen it yet, I think you'll like it. I wish I could paste it here. <br /><br />Han, Leia, Chewie and 3po are trying to leave Hoth. When Leia asks if it would help if she got out and pushed, Han says it might just like in the movie, so in the next scene Leia is outside pushing the Falcon. It's really funny. ; )emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09586595466341139745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-8426964983950656772011-09-19T19:02:18.338-05:002011-09-19T19:02:18.338-05:00If you look at trying to cram Han's whole life...If you look at trying to cram Han's whole life into this one book, from birth... or whatever after he remembers until he's 18 or 19, then it's tough to start from the "beginning" and stuff in all of this early stuff and jump to when he escapes. Think of it as seeing Han "free" from the beginning and filling in the details later. Otherwise the rest of the stuff could've come across as more rushed and very jumpy. It doesn't follow a cohesive timeline, it's just a few, memorable incidents.<br /><br />As for them not being 12-year olds on that asteroid, well, they didn't have Threepio to interrupt them on that beach. And nobody was planning on leaving anytime soon.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-54600254055930435802011-09-19T18:33:06.858-05:002011-09-19T18:33:06.858-05:00I agree with it not feeling like the 'real'...I agree with it not feeling like the 'real' Han, although as the book wore on it seemed to improve. I don't get what he saw in Bria other than she was a girl and he was 18 years old, which you know, happens. And the Dewlanna thing, I wish they would've had the flashbacks before they had her death scene, it would've been more moving that way, IMO. But I still think his pledge to 'help her kind' was just...no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-923435744110983052011-09-19T18:23:51.545-05:002011-09-19T18:23:51.545-05:00as far as the sex part; there's also a bit in ...as far as the sex part; there's also a bit in there where it says that Han had plans that involved them being locked in his cabin or something but decides she needs a friend now not a lover and he'd just have to be patient so the implication is the beach is when things change. also there is some mild allusion to it when they go visit her family, they all basically assume they're "more than friends" nudge nudge wink wink. <br /><br />I had to go back nad check how old he was supposed to be at the beginning, I sort of got the feel that the older he got the tighter control Shrike kept over him. but I thought the Han we know would have tried to take off sooner. also it was sort of backwards how Delwanna dies and then we find out how much she meant to him. <br /><br />the whole I know bit really annoyed me this time around, not so much the first time I read it. I just don't get what he sees in Bria. she's a big wimp until after she leaves him. <br /><br />it was ok and I liked him trying to make his life better. but a lot of the book didn't feel like the "real" Han to me.jzhanfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07376308728767558575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-25293729282076516122011-09-19T18:21:21.209-05:002011-09-19T18:21:21.209-05:00They're not 12-year olds kissing on that aster...They're not 12-year olds kissing on that asteroid either...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-56288534233350525412011-09-19T16:50:26.051-05:002011-09-19T16:50:26.051-05:00I guess I'm just used to Han always needing so...I guess I'm just used to Han always needing some sort of copilot or whatever. It even happens later after Chewie dies when he has Droma for a while. I guess they were at first going to make him a more major character to take Chewie's place, but fortunately they had Leia take his place instead!<br /><br />As for insinuating sex, it was VERY subtle, like G-rated we can't REALLY mention it obviously but if you read between the lines.... First time was on the beach when they kiss and then it just said, "After that they didn't speak for a long time..." It kind of said almost the exact same thing later on, they were in their hotel room the night before she leaves him actually, I think. Just starts with them kissing a lot and then again says that they didn't talk for a while. They're not 12-year olds kissing, so... well, you have to kind of think that was what they were talking about.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-40008665123142699662011-09-19T16:06:53.122-05:002011-09-19T16:06:53.122-05:00There was supposed to be a :P in there somewhere a...There was supposed to be a :P in there somewhere after the slapping bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-24067493483519437022011-09-19T16:05:51.880-05:002011-09-19T16:05:51.880-05:00"Han finally helps Bria realize that she is b..."Han finally helps Bria realize that she is being duped by the priests and…she slaps him. Nice girl. That’s all I have to say about that."<br /><br />Yes, that's why I actually sort of liked her. I'm impressed that she had the guts to slap him. Anyway, in response to Zyra's review, when did they insinuate sex? (Haven't read it recently enough to remember exactly)<br /><br />I'm surprised neither of you brought up Muuurgh much. Despite being assigned to Han as a "bodyguard" and being described as feline, I thought he was way too much like Chewie. And maybe he wasn't, but that's what I kept thinking. The book - all three, actually - were decent, but waaaaaay too much foreshadowing and similarities to the movies. Who said that his childhood had to go the same as the rest of his life?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-35796880094419159202011-09-19T07:39:02.908-05:002011-09-19T07:39:02.908-05:00...cont'd...
As for the foreshadowing, scruff......cont'd...<br /><br />As for the foreshadowing, scruffy was definitely overused, but used by quite a few people, actually. The "I know" thing was used differently here. I think that was one of the moments that infuriated me the first time I read it, but this time it didn't bother me so much because she said it because he was having trouble getting the words out at all, but in the same sort of way that he says it to Leia later. As Push said, if their relationship ended there, it wouldn't be a big deal. The real problem comes in future books. But that will be another review. <br /><br />I did enjoy my second read of this and refreshing my memory on Han's past. It's fun to read him as a young man who is basically on the run and just trying to make a living and stay one step ahead of anyone who might be looking for him. He just wants to make a decent life for himself but he feels he needs to use less than honest ways to start out. It at least shows that he has ambition and of course that he loves to pilot. <br /><br />Oh, and the other annoying thing is already in this book it gets alluded to that Han and Bria had sex on at least two specific occasions. That might tie Han and Leia in the entire rest of the EU. But the good here outweighs the bad, and like Push, I'd give it a 3 out of 5.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-38820138977819372122011-09-19T07:31:37.029-05:002011-09-19T07:31:37.029-05:00It was interesting reading this one for the second...It was interesting reading this one for the second time and getting both Push's first time perspective and my re-read opinion. I will say that I read this book probably in 1999, or not long after it came out, whenever that was. I remembered some of the details but overall I remember coming away knowing that overall I liked it, all three of these books, in spite of intense hatred of Bria and feeling like there were several things in the books that made it seem like stuff that happened later between Han and Leia were just echoes of Han's past relationship with Bria. But anyway...<br /><br />I hadn't noticed the sort of young feel of the beginning. I disagree here with Push on Han sounding young, but overall in the first chapter it didn't sound like HAN to me. And the writing itself seemed juvenile early on. I wondered if maybe the author purposely wrote it that way so that as Han aged and matured the writing did as well. But who knows? <br /><br />It does start off pretty quick with Dewlanna dying and it's hard I guess to care that much although the fact that she sacrificed herself for him made me like her even in that quick instant. I guess I don't have as hard a time with Han's tragic childhood, either. Maybe it's laziness of having to think up my own alternative. But it does give you a lot of reasons as to why Han winds up so smart as far as figuring stuff out, such a good pilot, knowing lots of languages and really being able to deal with almost anyone in any situation. And I don't know, I just don't see Han growing up with a nice family. But maybe it's just because I never knew any different.<br /><br />The writing does switch and works fine really from then on. I'll honestly say that on the second read his whole relationship with Bria didn't bother me nearly as much as it did the first time I read this book. I still don't really understand what he sees in her other than the fact that she's pretty, although as a 19-year old guy, that's probably all he really needs, right? They also allude to the fact that even before Bria there had already been quite a few girls in his life. I guess I just don't see Han wanting to deal with all of that drama of the fact that she's basically a drug addict in a cult. But whatever. He also calls her honey way too much. I've never known any guy around 20 who constantly calls his girlfriend honey. But I guess Han is not your average guy.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.com