tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post6260458268013598796..comments2023-04-10T03:20:23.344-05:00Comments on HanLeiaFanFicWriters: The Crystal Star - The ReviewZyrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-835499463601173502012-04-11T16:50:28.607-05:002012-04-11T16:50:28.607-05:00True, but for a guy's night out...True, but for a guy's night out...amara zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03344117896874708549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-8371569608611703242012-04-11T16:29:06.582-05:002012-04-11T16:29:06.582-05:00Couldn't have been THAT good. He didn't g...Couldn't have been THAT good. He didn't get to sleep with Leia.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-87169280598861459962012-04-11T16:24:41.099-05:002012-04-11T16:24:41.099-05:00I'll second that. Sounds like a pretty good ni...I'll second that. Sounds like a pretty good night though.amara zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03344117896874708549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-64904330078902911172012-04-11T16:16:30.849-05:002012-04-11T16:16:30.849-05:00Probably nobody is paying attention here anymore b...Probably nobody is paying attention here anymore but I just remembered something that totally made me laugh when I read this book. Han has somewhat of an omage to Charlie Sheen and his "winning":<br /><br />Han strolled happily along the quiet path. What a great evening. No one bothering him, the razor edge of his concentration sharpened rather than dulled by the excellent ale, nothing to worry about, nothing to think about, playing cards on instinct and nerve. Winning.<br /><br />Hah. Good thing Han isn't at all like Charlie Sheen.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-87382150078373536902012-04-10T12:09:51.078-05:002012-04-10T12:09:51.078-05:00Ahh, yes, the good old Tatooine Ghost therapy. It ...Ahh, yes, the good old Tatooine Ghost therapy. It really is a life saver that book. Whenever the EU throws something bad at us, it's always there to remind us that when Han and Leia are written by someone that actually appreciates them, then the EU isn't such a bad place to be.<br /><br />Where would we be without Troy Denning?claire1976https://www.blogger.com/profile/04285049568087268653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-84161562233788602322012-04-09T19:23:08.079-05:002012-04-09T19:23:08.079-05:00rereading this book reminded me how much I hated i...rereading this book reminded me how much I hated it. I didn't know what fanfiction was back then but if I did I would have said it read like very bad fan fiction. the writing is very stilted and you come away with the impression that the author does not have a high opinion of the audience. or else, that she has a very limited vocabulary. or imagines herself as Hemmingway. <br /><br />my personal pet peeve was how many times Leia "forgot" that she'd changed her hair. I wanted to shove a mirror in front of her. hello, you don't notice the green striped hair hanging in your face?<br /><br />and don't get me started on the ghostling and Xavierri and why the hell Han is taking a vacation with whiny old Luke in the first place and not his wife and/or kids. <br /><br />I seem to remember taking the whole Xaveierri thing as since Luke sure as heck wasn't offering any useful help or sympathy, who could blame Han for dumping it on her? but never did it occur to me that Han had any thoughts of cheating on Leia at all, or that the author meant us to think he did. I took it as Luke overreacting and Han getting pissed at him for it. <br /><br />honestly, having forced myself to reread it I now remember why I never bought the thing in the first place, and why I never reread it till now. aside from a few random bits where Han is headed off gambling and seems like himself, it's almost as bad as COPL.<br /><br />Excuse me, I'm going to go wash my mind out with Tatooine Ghost now.jzhanfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07376308728767558575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-32081615173939305332012-04-09T12:43:43.736-05:002012-04-09T12:43:43.736-05:00Welcome, Novahawk and thanks for the insights on t...Welcome, Novahawk and thanks for the insights on this book. Really, with my review, I didn't get into all that I thought was wrong with it more than pointing out what I liked about it. A bad habit I've fallen into with this books, I know. But I guess it's all too easy to remember how horrible they are and I like to find things that I liked! <br /><br />I didn't ever feel when I read this book that the author was trying to make us feel as if Han would cheat with Xaverri. I DID feel like she walked a little close to that line in that one small paragraph about that ghostling woman, which is funny since it was just a small little snippet, but I did feel uncomfortable reading about it.<br /><br />I didn't agree with how 'affected' Han was by seeing the little boy murdered by Waru which then lead to him sleeping in Xaverri's arms. But in the end, I wonder if it's worth the trouble getting upset over how Han and Leia are written when it happens so blatantly and so often that I've become numb to it.<br /><br />Oh, the EU...what an odious mess!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-74079687484880174602012-04-09T12:32:40.565-05:002012-04-09T12:32:40.565-05:00Welcome, Jaina. Sorry I'm late!Welcome, Jaina. Sorry I'm late!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-65584412613390381522012-04-08T21:12:51.808-05:002012-04-08T21:12:51.808-05:00Aw, thanks :)Aw, thanks :)Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-57048736866897986942012-04-08T13:31:06.666-05:002012-04-08T13:31:06.666-05:00Actually, make that six reviews.
:DActually, make that six reviews.<br /><br />:Dclaire1976https://www.blogger.com/profile/04285049568087268653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-33234215578871448312012-04-08T11:13:30.550-05:002012-04-08T11:13:30.550-05:00You're sure that's not five reviews? Yes, ...You're sure that's not five reviews? Yes, I'm evil and quite incorrigible. :)amara zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03344117896874708549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-70095234822978861422012-04-08T10:17:58.147-05:002012-04-08T10:17:58.147-05:00I don't know, there is something similar to wh...I don't know, there is something similar to what you describe over there with not one, but four glowing reviews. Might be what you're referring to but I reserve the right to deny involvement.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-42621474750175260092012-04-08T08:57:03.366-05:002012-04-08T08:57:03.366-05:00I agree, Claire.I agree, Claire.amara zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03344117896874708549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-3454048674502980922012-04-08T07:38:32.268-05:002012-04-08T07:38:32.268-05:00Ok, I think I've missed something here. I'...Ok, I think I've missed something here. I'm going to check ff.net because it sounds like Zyra has written a story featuring Han in bath that I clearly don't remember, I'm assuming it will be featured over there???<br /><br />If you have written such a thing, how the hell can it NOT be good?claire1976https://www.blogger.com/profile/04285049568087268653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-55788906655770182172012-04-07T16:18:33.931-05:002012-04-07T16:18:33.931-05:00Something good? No.Something good? No.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-1754409119701864002012-04-07T11:22:57.105-05:002012-04-07T11:22:57.105-05:00What story is this? Have I missed something good?...What story is this? Have I missed something good?claire1976https://www.blogger.com/profile/04285049568087268653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-54311976655081337602012-04-06T14:36:08.079-05:002012-04-06T14:36:08.079-05:00Nope, you must be imagining this silly story.Nope, you must be imagining this silly story.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-63979659249597426252012-04-06T13:00:09.129-05:002012-04-06T13:00:09.129-05:00Remember "You Coild Use Some Relaxing"?Remember "You Coild Use Some Relaxing"?amara zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03344117896874708549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-10733484751946507382012-04-06T12:54:05.600-05:002012-04-06T12:54:05.600-05:00I have no idea what you're talking about...I have no idea what you're talking about...Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-1150906505469331292012-04-06T12:30:59.778-05:002012-04-06T12:30:59.778-05:00But don't you have a bath story, Zyra? :)But don't you have a bath story, Zyra? :)amara zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03344117896874708549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-46777794525675163522012-04-06T12:02:06.326-05:002012-04-06T12:02:06.326-05:00I agree, at the point in the story that this scene...I agree, at the point in the story that this scene occurs Han is quite shaken up and would have accepted a hug off of anyone.<br /><br />Seeing an old girlfriend after so many years is sure to stir up fond memories of the time you spent together, but it doesn't mean you'll want a roll in the hay for old times sake. Han has clearly moved on and is more than happy in his marriage. During the time he's alone with Xaverri, Han thinks about how he may never hold Leia in his arms again, or kiss his children, so his thoughts are very much with them.<br /><br />Hmm, I like the thought of Han in the bath very much!! Maybe Leia should get in there with him?claire1976https://www.blogger.com/profile/04285049568087268653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-54880436744993243832012-04-06T11:37:54.031-05:002012-04-06T11:37:54.031-05:00Your right Zyra, I don't think He would ever c...Your right Zyra, I don't think He would ever cheat on Leia. But I think the Author was trying very hard, too hard to set the audience up with doubt about it. At least the audience for whom Han and Leia might not necessarily be their #1 favorites, like Push said just look at the cover.<br /><br />I think my issue with that sequence of events stems from how Han was portrayed to end up in that situation.<br />Han being THAT upset about it didn't work for me. He wasn't even that upset with Leia in COPL, and even then he was proactive. Irrational, and somewhat drunk, but still proactive, not passive. Han's never passive, and yet he was passive here. That just didn't work for me.<br /><br />And that Han/Leia didn't talk about it, only made it worse.Novahawk9https://www.blogger.com/profile/09649109169134562432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-49777761024057500102012-04-06T10:11:03.383-05:002012-04-06T10:11:03.383-05:00Thanks for the post, Novahawk! I have mixed feeli...Thanks for the post, Novahawk! I have mixed feelings on how the Han/Xaverri thing was handled. But I wasn't under the impression that he was tempted in any way. I have no doubt that Han would remain faithful to Leia. He didn't HAVE to get married. It offered him no advantage aside from spending the rest of his life with that one woman. If he didn't want her and only her, I don't think he would've bothered. And as for Han "putting himself in that position" that's a tough one because as Push said, Han was very emotionally affected by what he had seen earlier and probably would've taken comfort from just about anyone at that point, and she just happened to be there. I don't know, I don't love the idea of him having all of these fond memories of his old girlfriend but at the same time he never really had any thoughts that would lead me to believe he was thinking about cheating. <br /><br />And to comment on something else totally random from the reivew, I don't think anyone ever wrote a story about Leia finding Han in the tub. Nope, none of that out there. Sounds stupid.Zyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860113813294303312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-101832940956889662012-04-06T08:22:03.540-05:002012-04-06T08:22:03.540-05:00Welcome, novahawk! I hear what you're saying. ...Welcome, novahawk! I hear what you're saying. I think I fall somewhere between you and Claire on this one.amara zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03344117896874708549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4591963962547240042.post-84527545663383933712012-04-06T06:58:24.357-05:002012-04-06T06:58:24.357-05:00Hi Novahawk, and welcome!
I had no idea that some...Hi Novahawk, and welcome!<br /><br />I had no idea that some people have issues with this book beyond the fact that it's basically a load of crap. But you raise some interesting points.<br /><br />However, I don't see how the author implies in any way that Han was, or contemplated being unfaithful to Leia or ever would be. Infact I came away with the totally opposite impression from his reunion with Xaverri. That being that even though his old girlfriend showed up and they spent considerable time alone, nothing happened, and Han is very offended that Luke would even think that something did.<br /><br />Han is certainly not infallible in a lot of respects, no. But when it comes to his commitment and his love for Leia, then I do think he is a man who can be trusted. He has given himself to Leia 100%. So I think this book only helps enforce just how deeply he is committed to Leia and proves the strength of their relationship.<br /><br />That's just my take on things.claire1976https://www.blogger.com/profile/04285049568087268653noreply@blogger.com