Admittedly though considering that they are focusing so much on Han/Harrison, talking to him so much, showing so many photos, it makes me wonder if they are doing it because this is for sure the last time we will get to do it. Or, maybe we can hope that they are only spending so much time focusing on him because he's awesome and why wouldn't we want to spend so much time focusing on him? I do miss the bloodstripes down the sides though.
In my head a long time ago I was thinking how as we got closer we'd get to see more photos from the set and such, but I'm still just taken aback every time I see a new one, and surely there are tons more to come, before the movie, and surely some we won't see until after as they will give too much away plot-wise. There is a lengthy article online and promise of more to come in the upcoming issue of Entertainment Weekly, so I'll surely have to pick one of those up. There are some things in the article that make me a little nervous, most notably Harrison mentioning that Han Solo is still having some trouble with accountability for his actions. Yeah, that makes me nervous. To make myself feel better I'll just stare at that photo a little more.
Lastly, watched Return of the Jedi last night, and I got goosebumps several times just thinking about seeing the next movie and not know what is coming next. Hopefully happy Han and Leia in ROTJ is not the last time we will ever see happy Han and Leia.
Great picture! I noticed the quote in the article about how Han isn't a good accountant implying he's still having money issues. Kinda leads me to believe he and Leia aren't together, however I'm convinced they end up together...I'm just worried about his fate. I want them together by the end of the movie and then move forward for the next installment/movie with both of them.
ReplyDeleteI can prepare myself for Han and Leia to be estranged at the beginning, but I CAN'T prepare myself for Han Solo dying.
I post my opinions about this in a forum. There's a lot of 'fanboys" in them who just don't get why or care about Han and Leia being together. That's why it's so nice to post over here.
DeleteIf they're not together, and then Han dies, I won't be seeing the next 2 movies. I don't even like the estrangement idea.
However, something doesn't "gel" to me. Han's wearing military rank cylinders, so he must be with Leia. Yet, Harrison Ford's and Carrie Fisher's remarks indicate otherwise. A supposed quote in "Moving Target" indicates that Leia and Han are together.
Is marketing out to confuse the heck out of us?
Yeah, tough to say for me how I'm going to feel about the upcoming movies if they do all of that. I will surely be a lot less enthusiastic and won't have the crazy anxiety over getting tickets as early as possible.
DeleteIs that military, though? I'm asking, I really have no idea. What quote indicated that they were together?
I would be much happier if they were out to confuse us rather than if they are truly telling us, hey kids, prepare yourselves, because Han and Leia aren't doing so well.
Forgive me, but what's "Moving Target" which indicates H/L are together? I would love good news. Thanks.
DeleteI don't have the novel, but from what I've read about it, it's all about Leia putting her love for Han first and saving him as opposed to putting the rebellion first.
DeleteApparently, this is the quote from the end of the novel, right before TFA:
What brought that to mind, if I might ask? Ah—you’ve finally agreed to dictate your memoirs.”
“To start on them, at least,” Leia said. “It was a question about duty—our commitments to causes, and to each other, and how we balance the two. It’s something I learned battling the Empire, and now Poe’s learning the same lesson against the First Order. I’ve discussed it with him. He’s old enough to hear me, but not old enough to listen yet. I’ll keep trying.”
“Dameron’s commitment is absolute,” Ematt said. “And he’s our best pilot. He’ll get what we need.”
“I’ve never worried about Poe’s commitment. My worry is for what that commitment may cost him.”
Ematt nodded, and Leia peered at him.
“I know that look,” she said. “Is there news from Jakku?”
“Yes, General,” Ematt said. “We’re awaiting you in the command center.”
Leia nodded and stepped into the corridor. The door shut behind her. As she and Ematt walked toward the command center, she felt a familiar tingle somewhere in the back of her mind. Events were in motion, and she would be at the center of them—at the center of the action.
And that, even after so many years of war, was a relief.
Oh, regarding the cylinders, they're supposed to be indicators of rank in the military. Han has them on his winter coat in the tv spot, too. Check out Poe's pants. Apparently, he's supposedly wearing some, too.
DeleteOr, cylinders containing data for use...
DeleteThanks for posting the quote. I had heard somewhere that apparently Leia is fairly close with Poe, that quote I'm sure is a major source of that belief. What part of that though gives any indication of her being with Han?
DeleteSorry, ladies, but "Moving Target" IS NOT the novel to read if you're trying to keep TFA H/L hope alive. In the TFA sequences, she's known as General Organs, and Han's nowhere in sight. In the main part of the story, Leia actually delays going to look for Han to go on the story's main mission. Even MON MOTHMA has to give her a "don't forget about love" pep talk!
DeletePersonally, if this movie has them reconciling , I think it increases his life expectancy. Dibs on that leather jacket and winter coat if he does go. Or will Finn beat me to them?
This is the quote that leads me to believe that led me to believe that they're together:
Delete“To start on them, at least,” Leia said. “It was a question about duty—our commitments to causes, and to each other, and how we balance the two. "
huh, interesting. See, my mind is so fixated on the worst possible outcome I didn't even really notice the mention of commitment to each other. And present tense about balancing the two.
DeleteHere's a great quote and it has to be HAN:
ReplyDelete“She’s referred to as General,” says director and co-writer J.J. Abrams. “But … there’s a moment in the movie where a character sort of slips and calls her ‘Princess.’”
Here's another quote that mentions Han with the word "family":
ReplyDeleteHan Solo, Striking a Familiar Stance
Can we expect much of the old Han from, well, Old Han? “I can’t imagine that Han Solo would ever not be a smartass. On the other hand, I’d like to think that he is very different at 30 than he is at around 70,” says J.J. Abrams. “When you live a life, you’ve had loss, you’ve experienced love and family and epiphanies and tragedies and disappointments and surprises. Those things accumulate.”
Interesting, thanks for posting. I was so over eager when reading the article I think I missed some parts. Well, well, this is seeming a little more clear cut in at least one regard.
DeleteI also agree that probably only one person is going to call her princess.
Curious about what became clearer unless too spoilery?
DeleteGreat pic, but his pants could be tighter. ;) Just saying.
That he has a kid or two... or I guess possibly more. What with the "family" mention as part of his experiences of the last 30 years. Along of course with the last trailer TV spot that cuts right between Rey and Han when it mentions seeing the same eyes in different people.
DeleteAh, gotcha. Cool.
DeleteEW stuff that mentions Han and Leia:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/11/star-wars-force-awakens-carrie-fisher-leia?hootPostID=bf2c4874dd3da24a1bd14fae92c9914a
Thanks for this article. Abrams really loves Carrie!! The part about him implying that someone calling her "princess" doesn't go over well with her is interesting. Sounds like she gets pissed at Han for calling her that?? Hmmm... Poor Leia is definitely struggling and unhappy, judging from Carrie's quotes.
DeleteIt doesn't say that the calling her princess doesn't go over well. It says we'll have to imagine who says it and how it goes over. So, it is entirely possible that Han says it and Leia loves it. Or I guess maybe she punches him. Or maybe someone else entirely says it. We don' know.
DeleteCould be Han saying it, but could also be Threepio, he is known to put his foot in it many times.
DeleteI read both articles. I loved them both, but the infomation about Han and Leia makes me sad. If Han didn't grow up in 30 years, what's the point of bringing him back and disappointing many fans? And Leia's solitary? What? So, she didn't learn anything either? I'm worried, honestly.
ReplyDeleteOn a different note, I'm sure that it's Han who will call her Princess...on purpose. Then she'll melt. Maybe a kiss. That being said, this doesn't bode well, I think. Very disappointed.
I do have to agree that a lot of what was said in the article gave me an "oh, no..." feeling in regard to their relationship. It was a little contradictory too, because a lot of what Harrison said about Han indicated he hadn't changed a lot, but a lot of what JJ said about Han said that he had been through enough that he would have to have changed. "Solitary" Leia definitely also has me worried. Seriously, is that poor woman just doomed to live an entirely miserable life? I've said it before, but a lot of this sounds like it is going to negate any character development that happened for them in the OT.
DeleteBut doesn't all of that negate the hug in the trailer? If she's solitary, then what's up with the trailer? That didn't seem like a comforting my friend kind of hug and still think they wouldn't negate the whole OT. Not without a riot that is. I kind of wonder how much of this could be smokescreen.
DeleteI know, that hug does not look like two people who haven't seen each other in a long time. I really don't know. Somewhere I hope that this is all misleading or we are reading into his incorrectly, but I'm kind of preparing myself for the worst.
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Deleteoops... ok, no matter what is in any article or interview, i'm still sticking with the notion they are 'together together'...just as you said Zyra, that is not the hug between two people that are estranged. 'General' Leia could feel isolated or pissed off about a lot of things going on in life (not just her husband; that's my point. Disillusionment over the never ending wars, etc...)
DeleteI'm still saying it would be too soap-operaish to have them estranged , then try to 'patch' things up, just as all hell breaks loose...jmo
i'm still thinking Han did something stupid in regards to the Falcon, that's enough to piss off any wife...
Deleteok i'll stop after this...I think some or all of the AU kids will show up in this movie, and or the next. Too many books and years with that stuff circulating to completely ignore it. I just think they make it all AU now so Abrams could bring back Chewbacca and not have some of the Solo kids go darth...
DeleteI don't know about EU kids showing up. It seems like you almost have to use all of it or none of it, otherwise it's just confusing. I mean I'd like for you to be right, I had grown attached to those kids! But I don't know.
DeletePerhaps they might exist, and be mentioned, but just not a part of episode 7; maybe they show up another episode, or just as cameos, or something...all this speculating, lol!!!
DeleteI don't know if they wear rings in outer space, but...no wedding ring on his finger.
ReplyDeleteI'm bummed about all I've read in the EW articles. I hope it's just misleading for the sake of anticipation. Everything with H&L sounds depressing. If they are estranged, there better be a darn good explanation for it and it better resolve itself by the end of the movie and NOT with Han's last words, either.
We have never seen wedding rings on anyone's fingers in Star Wars, so fortunately that one minor detail means nothing. Not that the other evidence isn't scary, just that this one thing means nothing.
DeleteI'm hoping it is misleading too. Not only is it depressing for Han and Leia, but the indication is that Leia has basically nothing but sadness. Seriously, how is that woman not just curled up in a ball of hopelessness and despair at this point? Her planet blew up, she had no family left, she found out Vader was her father, found out she had a brother who it appears has abandoned her as well, and if she had Han and some kids, that may be gone now too. Seriously, they are making it so that nobody would ever, EVER want to be Princess Leia.
It just further proves how strong she is that she hasn't completely fallen apart from all the strain.
DeleteTrue, I guess. But I think everyone has their limits. It reminds me of a Leia quote from just after the battle where Jaina finally had to kill Jacen, and Han and Leia rushed to her aid, having witnessed it, and obviously heartbroken even though they knew what she did was necessary. Jaina said something about how Leia and Han, her parents, were stronger than anything, or something like that. Leia's reply was, "That may be true, but I'm really tired of having that tested."
DeleteSorry, had to go look up the quote because I remembered it being a good one and wanted to get it accurate for you. Again, Jaina is injured:
DeleteHan: "But you've got to pull through, okay? I don't know if we can make it without you."
"*I* do." Jaina looked to her mother, and then added, "You together... nothing can break.... that."
Her mother smiled sadly, "Maybe not," she said, stepping back so Cighal and her assistants could start to work. "But I'm really tired of having that tested. So you listen to your father."
I was concerned about the ring issue, but no longer. In "The Shattered Empire" comics, Poe's mom doesn't have a wedding ring on, and she's married.
DeleteHey its Kels...having login issues but wanted to say...
ReplyDeleteOh...I'm kinda heartbroken by all this stuff I read today. It feels like the powers that be have chosen to ignore their OT arc...she needed to learn how to love something more than martyrdom to a cause, he needed to learn to something more than he loved himself. They did and made them both grow up and it changed both of their lives for the better. Abrams and Kasdan may want to ignore that in favor of their snark, turning Leia's life into one long torture porn story, and portraying Han as man who never really grew up, but, sorry, we know better. We saw it happen in the OT.
So yeah, if they are apart and then he dies, I'm out. 7 will be my last SW. I've actually been thinking about going ahead from the long fanfiction I'm writing now and trying to create a total AU of my own for these two, which may be ridiculous, but...wow, this just makes me very, very sad. I so hope it is not true but then nearly everything that came out today would have to be misdirection, and that's a little extreme.
Hi, Kels. Yeah, part of me wants to hope that this is all just a bunch of misdirection, or perhaps we are just misinterpreting what is being said, or it is not nearly as bad as we think it is. But it does sound an awful lots like they have ignored the OT arc, which would be.... awful. On top of this, we're not even big Luke fans here but it appears he is basically entirely absent which also doesn't really jive well with what we saw in the OT. I may be out too if this is all as bad as it sounds right now, but that will remain to be seen.
DeleteMakes me very sad as well. I wouldn't mind a whole AU that makes things better! Fanfic will be all I have if this really is that bad.
The thing is is that I love Luke, too. I just don't have any particular agenda for him like I do for Han and Leia. I just want to see a scene of the Big 3 again for the last time since the producers took the time to get them back together for this movie.
Deletehey anonymous, remember that Abrams said he did not/wouldn't alienate original Star Wars fans. Not having them together would alienate plenty of folks. I always thought that Kasdan was always rooting for Han and Leia, and had a lot to do with the good we saw in their dynamic relationship in TESB...
DeleteAs far as creating your own little world for them in fanfic/AU...go for it! that is my final safety net. I'm already starting that Au myself, lol as a safety net...but I don't think we'll need it.
Oooh, bad idea bringing up Kasdan. He actually has said in the past that the Han and Leia that wound up on screen in ESB really had little resemblance to whatever he wrote, and he didn't actually like their relationship. Yikes, not good, right? Granted those quotes could've been said years ago, and how he felt about them then might not have anything to do with what he decided to do with them now. But still.
Deleteoh poop - I heard it the opposite; that he thought the powers at the time took out too much of what he had created for them out. Well, in any case, the OT has them together and confirming their love for each other. so, it would be a big 180 to not have them together...
DeleteWait.... what you're saying to me sounds like we agree? That what Kasdan wrote for them wasn't really what wound up in the movie. I believe he was quoted as saying he thought there was a "falseness" to their relationship, or something else that I was obviously not happy to hear. I'd like to know though what they removed that he liked so much. I actually have Leigh Bracket's script somewhere, and I'm really a bad fan because I haven't read it. I should get on that.
DeleteI thought that Kasdan said their was a 'falseness' in their relationship, due to the fact that Luca/Kershner left out a lot of what he had created for them (ie; jumping from one kiss to I love you...that's leaving out a lot) so I interpreted that as he wanted more depth to their relationship, and we weren't really shown that, even though, yes, but the end of ROTJ, they had re-affirmed their love for each other....
DeleteAh, yeah, see we are saying the same thing, I agree with you, I'm just saying it differently and I guess it sounds to you like we are saying something different. I'm not sure I ever read the specifics of what was missing for him that they took out that left it feeling "false" to him. Of course the thing is, the movie can only be so long and it isn't fanfic and we have to worry about pacing. So even if they did spend a week gettin' it on during the trip to Bespin, there just isn't the opportunity in a movie like that for such indulgence. Like, today I watched some of the deleted scenes from ESB, including the additional bit of Han and Leia arguing in the beginning. It was such a good choice to take that extra part out. The dialog seemed forced and stilted, and I think it crossed a line into being just plain cruel from Han, too far. Ok, that isn't entirely relevant to this discussion, I just happened to watch it, but anyway....
DeleteThey had reaffirmed their love in ROTJ. Although again after watching it the other night I swear it is almost like Harrison was intentionally trying to play Han up as an idiot, as mostly he was there for comic relief. Really, it's almost annoying.
I kind of get it about Han. I see why they wanted to keep the core character of Han Solo the same. One reason why is he loved so much because of his "scoundrel" ways which includes being irresponsible and a gambler. I'm all for growth in a character, but I think the writers want the audience to fall back in love with the root of who Han Solo truly is. That being said, I want him to still be in love with Leia and vice versa. It sounds like the love is still there, but something BIG separated them and now they are both miserable. I'm glad that they aren't happy without each other. How would we feel if Leia was feeling great about her work and just really happy without Han? That would suck. Same with Han. If they have to be written as estranged, I want them unhappy without each other.
DeleteHe can still be a "scoundrel" even if he stays with Leia. That's a big part of why she loves him. The books seemed to have no problem for the most part keeping his core character the same while still having him be a family man. I mean, not always, and they weren't perfect by any means, but still.
DeleteI just don't want them to have been separated for like, 20 years. Ugh. Is it time for all of this endless worrying to go away yet?
Kels again...
ReplyDeleteI just keep trying to remind myself that it's ALL fanfiction now that Lucas isn't involved. But...
Yeah, ok, back to the fanfiction writing to give myself some solace.
Hah, good point. It is also sort of strange to me that after this another director and writer take over. Like... shouldn't it all be someone's long coherent story? I still wonder what Michael Arendt's script was before they tossed it. I worry I'm going to really, really wish that they had used his instead.
DeleteI keep thinking I need to write something before all of my illusions are shattered. I feel like someone is about to definitively tell me that Santa isn't real and he never was.
Kels: except in this case, Santa was real and then some kid might have decided to stick a knife in him.
ReplyDeleteOuch. Harsh, but probably accurate.
DeleteYep, kinda sorta what I thought. Sorta.
DeleteYou guys were busy after I went to sleep. This morning I read something on Twitter (news spreads faster on Twitter than anywhere else) from a guy who does movie news stuff, claims to have known lots of Star Wars spoilers for like, a year, but is not sharing them because he doesn't want to put up spoilers for those people who do not want spoilers. Yes, of course this could be a complete lie, but something about it made it appear more legitimate to me. Anyway, the point is, he mentioned that he thinks it's funny that a lot of people are saying that the Leia article gives away a lot of spoilers, and he claims that it actually doesn't at all. So, if that is true, I'll be happy, because to me any potential spoilers from that article were not at all good news for Leia, as well as Leia and Han together.
ReplyDeleteThanks.
DeleteCan you post this tweet here? I'd like to see it.
Deletejust keep remembering.... that embrace.... and the love theme played in the second trailer.
ReplyDeleteThe Star Wars mythology is not about cynicism and disillusionment; i'm not saying that Han and Leia haven't had some struggles in the last 30 yrs (what marriage doesn't) but it would be too much of a 'defeat' for them to not still be married and together.
Even from a character standpoint, both Han and Leia did (or would do, I think) practically anything to 'win', so to speak. I think you can apply that to their love. Can you see either of them giving up on their marriage and letting it 'fail'? I don't think so...they're both to stubborn for that, lol
I do agree with you, I look at that hug and think... well, it can't be bad, right? That is not how you hug someone who pissed you off 15 years ago and you haven't seen since. Or maybe it is, I don't know, I've never been through that before. But still, Leia is a tough chick, I don't know that she is just going to melt into him like that if things had been bad for a long time.
DeleteI totally agree that Star Wars is not about cynicism and disillusionment, which is what is starting to bother me about what it SEEMS like is happening here. Everything seems dark and awful. Relationships are all non existent, the bad guys are still in control of everything, nobody has had a happy moment since ROTJ. I don't want any of that to be true, but I'm preparing myself for that possibility.
No, it really isn't. Also...ok, i'm getting picky here, but by the way he has her head cradled radiates a current intimacy that you wouldn't do with an estranged spouse, imo
Deletewith all of the other emotional stuff that appears to be going on in this movie, I think a strained marriage would be too much and they won't do it; i'm not saying they don't have some disagreements and such, but the focus I think the main focus is going to be the fall and or redemption of a child...(probably one of theirs)
sorry I was typing fast, lol...and I also agree with you; Leia is one tough woman; if they were estranged, I don't think she would fall apart in front of him, no matter what the circumstances. "Hi, you ditched me and I haven't seen you in years, let me crumble into you..(?) Nope...
DeleteI agree about the hug. Someone wouldn't hold someone like that if they were estranged.
DeleteLet's all just hold onto that hug for hope. Because I agree that the way he holds her head implies a real intimacy that you just wouldn't have with someone you weren't very bonded with.
DeleteI've always regarded the prequels as being basically non-canon, kind of on the level of the EU. Officially sanctioned, but not "my" version of the GFFA. That's what I'm going to do if these movies turn out badly. It will be harder, though, since we'll actually be seeing Carrie and Harrison up there on the screen as H/L.
ReplyDeleteCan I say though that I just read the article again, and it doesn't even call her General Leia Organa or anything else, just that it is General instead of Princess. Hmmm.....
ReplyDeleteWell, never mind. We've really known she was General Leia Organa for months now, since whatever book that was came out.
DeleteAnd to that point, again in the "Shattered Empire" comic book, Poe's mom kept her maiden name.
DeleteI found the tweet:
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Peter Sciretta Verified account @slashfilm 17h17 hours ago
It's so weird that some people are freaking out because they think the Princess Leia story is a spoiler, but it really isn't at all.
I've seen him online before. He has some connections to people involved with the film. He's a writer, I believe.
Yep, that is exactly what I was talking about. Thanks for finding it.
DeleteFYI to my American blog readers, which are probably the only ones awake right now anyway, tonight on ABC apparently there is to be a "Special look" at The Force Awakens. What exactly that means, I have no idea, and there is no specific time frame given as to when they are going to show it, but of course now I'm stuck watching Thursday night ABC, which I don't think I've ever watched before. I didn't even realize Grey's Anatomy was still on.
ReplyDeleteI'm torn. the Carrie article does worry me, the whole Leia being alone and tired thing makes it sound really rotten for her. but on the other hand, Harrison looks hotter than ever and maybe I'll just sit here and stare at that photo for a while.
ReplyDeletein other news... that hug doesn't look like an estranged couple reuniting to me. to me it looks like goodbye. like, self sacrificing hero heading off to die. maybe I should go back and stare at Han's pants some more.
Hi, JZ! Ok, so apparently we are all in agreement that the Leia article doesn't sound too good. But then read the comments above about the guy who knows spoilers and says that the article actually reveals nothing, so maybe we are reading into things that aren't there? Or potentially it is intentionally misleading.
DeleteIt does seem sort of like a goodbye hug. I am basically not going to be able to breathe for the final act of this movie as I wait to find out for sure who makes it out alive.
Good call on staring at Han's pants. Who will be getting Entertainment Weekly tomorrow? Apparently there are 4 different covers, and Han is only one option. I will not rest until I find that one specific cover, which hopefully will not prove to be a monumental task.
I subscribe to EW and my daughter has orders to text me when she gets off the bus and gets the mail today. If I don't get the Han cover I will cry.
DeleteJZ on her phone at work and not logged in
Hurrah! Our issue has the Harrison cover!
DeleteJZ
holy crap that picture is a full page image. I'll just be over here in the corner of the couch, sighing.
DeleteWhat picture, the one posted up there of Han? Well now I for sure need to get my copy ASAP. How many stores will I have to visit to find a Han cover?
DeleteYes ma'am. That picture right there is page 68.
DeleteGet thee to a newsstand now.
JZ
Can I venture a guess... I think that Leia's loneliness is due to the fact that Han and Chewie have been gone for a while looking for a missing Luke (and in the meantime will come across Rey and Finn). They'll come back to the rebel base after months which would explain the stubble, the "Chewie, we're home" scene and the reunion hug between Han and Leia... maybe she looks distressed in his arms because she has bad new for him like their son tuning to the dark side?
ReplyDeleteI do hope you're right! In the back of my mind of course I'm still sort of hopeful, which is why I actually don't want to know the truth before the movie, because I don't want to walk in heartbroken over it already, where as maybe by the time I find out the awful truth it won't seem so bad. I am just preparing myself for the worst.
DeleteHe's standing with her in the new trailer, that has to be good, right? Right?
Very good indeed!
DeleteSorry for the typos...
ReplyDeleteDid you guys see it? Did you see it? I don't think it is officially up anywhere yet but there was another TV spot. This one had a little more of Han (how do they just always have more of Han? Although this was the first clip I've seen where I didn't think he looked BETTER than last time) some of him shooting with Chewie, handing a blaster to Rey, and standing in what looks like one of the old bases either on Hoth or Yavin and it is a quick shot but he is very clearly standing next to Leia. And all over again I'm excited.
ReplyDeleteLink: http://www.starwarspost.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-new-tv-spot/
DeleteHi.
DeleteI saw it. I actually enjoyed the preview clip as well where it was emphasized that Star Wars was about relationships and then showed Han and Leia in a romantic moment from ESB. I don't see Leia, though.
Her back is to the camera. Billie is in that scene too. Anyone else her?
DeleteOh yeah, had to look at it again but it does look like Billie. Interesting.
DeleteHere's a link to a screenshot if anyone's interested: http://imgur.com/ktjvg9P
DeleteThat's definitely Chanel #3. There's also C-3PO and Mon Calamari — Admiral Ackbar, perhaps?
Love the costume design. It's all very 1970s sci-fi. Yay!
Chanel #3? What?
DeleteI bet that is Ackbar. It is actually kind of fun that Ackbar is back.
I saw somewhere else there is some speculation that the other couple in that photo leaning in to one another across the table are Poe's parents.
Agree the costumes are great in this, feels VERY Star Wars.
Sorry, Chanel #3 = lame joke/reference to Billie's character name in Scream Queens. Poe's parents? Interesting.
DeleteOh, is that Leia with her back to the audience?
ReplyDeleteI think that Han being next to Leia is very telling. Notice that C3PO is on the other side of her. Her two closest people at this point (with the exception of Luke, maybe?). Although I'm still skeptical of them being together because of what Carrie Fisher said, the 1st ABC clip did indicate that this movie would feature their relationship. Weird...
ReplyDeleteCheck this out. I missed this first clip on ABC before the ones after 10 p.m. The movie is really going to feature their romance. There is a brief video on Twitter. I don't know why I ignore clues right in front of my face, like the Han and Leia theme in the 3rd trailer.
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Tony Goldwyn Verified account @tonygoldwyn 56m56 minutes ago
Oliva and Fitz… Han and Leia…” #TGITAwakens @starwars
Not seeing a link here.
DeletePlease do a search for his name. I can't really link it.
DeleteOk, what does that have to do with TFA though? He's talking about how they came together but it really doesn't have anything to do with what may or may not be happening with them in the new movie. Also those people probably know about as much about the upcoming movie as we do.
DeleteI think that in that clip and in the first 10:00 p.m. clip, Han and Leia's relationship is emphasized to show that it will be a big part of the new film.
DeleteUgh, went to try and find an Entertainment Weekly and it's still last week's issue. This always seems to happen. I did find a cool Star Wars magazine though that has some good stuff in it so I bought that instead and will look in the next few days.
ReplyDeleteI didn't find it on the stands. I went to buy it 'cause I wanted the Han Solo cover, although I have a subscription to EW. They sent me Finn. :)
ReplyDeleteI was listening to this "Force Awakens" podcast, and these 2 ladies started discussing the control room scene with Han and Leia next to each other. They stated that because Han was not right next to Leia (meaning within touching distance), they were not a couple. I had to turn the podcast off. It got me so irritated that they ignored common sense. Han and Leia aren't a couple because Han isn't within inches of her space sounded so ridiculous to me that I had to turn the podcast off.
ReplyDeleteIn EW, they cut out half of the article on Leia, including the part about her character's description.
ReplyDeleteThey should have cast Billie as a Han/Leia kid because my goodness, she looks freakin' just like Carrie. Sounds just like her, too.
ReplyDeleteI agree, and that occurred to me. Why haven't they mentioned her at all in any interviews? Not trying to stir up anything. Just speculating...
DeleteThat is a bit odd. And I figure it's just more of the surprise factor, which doesn't really make sense with her since she's not even a character we know, unlike Luke that they're hiding for a reason. I feel like he's probably gone over to the Dark Side. The hug between Han and Leia doesn't seem like a goodbye hug to me, but one of comfort. I think something bad happens to cause that.
DeleteI like Scruffy Looking's idea the best, though...If only...
I agree about the hug. I keep going back and forth about whether they're together or not. It shouldn't bother me this much-It's only a movie-but it does. I didn't wait 32 years to see them on screen again to see them apart.
DeleteI read some forums, and I post on one forum. You wouldn't believe how people believe rumors and take them as absolute gospel. They see what's in the trailers, and because it looks like what's in the rumors, it's true. Unbelievable.
That being said, Leia did say that she was solitary. People I talk to on the forums seem to think otherwise-that maybe she just keeps to herself as opposed to being truly alone.
Honestly, that hug looks to me like an end-of-the-movie hug where she thought Han just died or something. His head is conspicuously cut out of the photo. It's very obvious that it's Han, unless they want to hide scratches or bruises on his head. My opinion, only...
Regarding Billie Lourd, if she's such a minor character, why not interview her on her first film experience?
Why haven't they mentioned Billie? I am under the impression that she is basically a glorified cameo appearance. There's no reason to really discuss her role or anything, especially with so much else to talk about. It's cute that her daughter is in the movie, but not really news worthy. Well, not now that it is becoming clearer she doesn't have much of a role as opposed to when it was announced that she was going to be in it and the fanboys did their thing and went off about how she was going to play a young Leia or some other such nonsense.
DeleteThe people on forums going off on wild tangents about rumors is why I decided a long time ago that I was going to stay off of those forums. It's crazy how many people will state things as though they know them as fact, or say how things in trailers "prove" things. They don't really prove much of anything, and we could probably come up with a hundred different stories that would work with what we have been shown.
Leia absolutely COULD be solitary while still being married to Han. It's entirely possible that they aren't even estranged, just kind of stuck being busy in the middle of this war and not being able to spend much time together recently. Of course they could be estranged too, but we really don't know.
I was so disappointed, I went to see Spectre, the new James Bond movie, and they didn't show a Star Wars trailer before it. I want to see that trailer on the big screen and unless they show it before Hunger Games I may not get my chance. I did think to myself several times during the movie though how absolutely amazing it is going to be seeing this moving in another month. The last time I saw a new Star Wars movie with Han and Leia in it I was in preschool. That's ridiculous. I just.... I don't even think I can possibly anticipate how I'm going to react to the whole thing when it actually happens.
ReplyDeleteApparently EW doesn't really hit the newsstands for at least several days after it arrives for subscribers, because the grocery store still had last week's on the rack this morning.
ReplyDeleteIndy 4 is on TV, and I'm watching it because I don't hate it anywhere near as much as most other people and in fact kind of like it.
ReplyDeleteBut my point in telling you this is: remember when this was coming out and they told us, no, no, Shia totally isn' Indy's son? And I think they were initially trying to hide the fact that Karen Allen was going to be in it, too. Yeah, so, think of that what you will.
I agree. The more I think of it, the more I'm positive Han and Leia will be together, married. They try to throw us off...
DeleteOh, and I have a crazy theory as to why Luke is nowhere to be found in the trailers, posters... Maybe he's dead and will be seen on screen as a glowing ghost "Ã la Obi-Wan Kenobi" transmitting wisdom to the new Jedis! ...Can December 17th come already, I want to stop speculating and have all the answers....
DeleteI know, though it's like... why throw us off? But then like I said, it suddenly dawned on me when watching Crystal Skull, duh, they've done this before. Although the funny thing is "they" haven't actually done anything specific to make us think they are not together. They are letting us go off on our own wild tangents.
DeleteI thought about that too, maybe Luke is already dead. I don't think they would do that, but the more time that passes, the crazier our theories must become so we at least have something to do.
Maybe they do it because they want us to be more and more interested in finding out if they are together.
DeleteHello beautiful ladies! I can't believe we're one month out from The Force Awakens. We have tickets for the evening of Thursday the 17th. I vacillate between feeling dread, disappointment, and total excitement.
ReplyDeleteZyra, you mentioned wanting to write another story before the whole saga changes. I was determined to finish my current story by opening day, but I don't think that's going to happen...Hopefully the movie's release will bring in a whole new crew of young 'shippers!
Here's my take on the embrace in the trailer: I think that H/L begin the movie estranged, then have an intimate detante 2/3 of the way through. My guess is that the embrace comes the "morning after," during the same scene where we see pilots rushing to ships and Finn and Poe shoulder bumping. I think that's their farewell. Given my hunch and the general buzz (not even spoilers!), I think it might be their final farewell.
Speaking of which, I think this film is literally going to cause me to come to terms with human mortality. I have awful death anxiety that's really plagued me the last few years, and the events of this movie might just cause me to accept that everyone has to die sooner or later, and that, on some level, that needs to be OK.
Hello there, Lady Peter. (Do you feel all regal and stuff when people call you that?) I feel the same mix of feelings, really.
DeleteI do hope you get some more writing in, as the weeks pass it is becoming more apparent I will not be writing even a sentence! Maybe we'll see some new people, it will be interesting to see if it changes anything at all.
Your theory on it seems entirely plausible. And also kind of what I fear, that we will see their final moments together, which is going to just kill me every time I watch the movie forever more.
Interesting, and I can see it maybe having a similar effect on myself. Honestly, even just seeing HOW much these people have aged, and thinking about how Harrison is freaking 73 years old and regardless of how good he looks, we really can't possibly have a whole lot of good years left with him, which is sad. I mean, he's been in movies I've watched basically since I started watching movies. Basically I have a strong suspicion that I'm going to be an emotional mess for a day or 2, minimum, after this comes out. Gah, is it time yet?
The only thing is is that when you compare the Han/Leia scene vs. the Poe and Finn scene, the people in the background are acting completely different. In the Poe and Finn scene, they're rushing to get on their planes. In the Han/Leia scene, people are standing around and walking away from planes.
DeleteThat's very interesting! Well, maybe this is their reunion after the climactic battle, and Leia is sad because of all the stuff that went down. I've got to say, if Han *doesn't* die, I'm not sure what I'll do with myself! I've been psyching myself up for the worst case scenario for so long...
DeleteOh, and there is ANOTHER new short TV spot with a few new clips. Not a lot, a couple of brief shots of Han, looking hot as ever, but with Finn. I've lost track at this point of how many TV spots we are up to now. I would like for someone to tell us though the total number of minutes of footage we've actually seen at this point. It probably still hasn't exceeded 5 minutes.
ReplyDeleteSo true. Cute little clip, though. No more Leia? I wonder if that's because of what's posted in her interview about her character. It seems like they're trying to show some lighter moments.
DeleteCan I just take a minute to say how much I LOVE John Boyega? I truly see him as Harrison Ford's successor. If anyone's looking for any more last-minute viewing before the opening, I highly recommend "Attack the Block." I saw that and I was like, "now I see why they cast him."
DeleteJust under 5 weeks to go now! So excited! I've been trying to reread as much fic as possible leading up the VII release and wondering if anyone could help me find one that seems to have disappeared from fanfiction.net. Is there a post here I should comment on for help, of is this one okay?
ReplyDeleteWhere did you get that extra week? It is exactly 4 weeks from today!!!!!
DeleteAsk about fics wherever, here is probably best because people pay the most attention to the most recent posts.
I'd like to think of it as less of a miscalculation and more of a happy accident that resulted in gift of 1 LESS week of anticipation for myself :) Thanks for the correction.
DeleteI forget the name of the fic in question, but it's actually TWO fics that follow in sequence. They're set between ANH and ESB, maybe even on Yavin. Han, Leia and Luke are enjoying an evening of friendship aboard the Falcon. When Luke leaves, a tispy Leia agrees to allow Han to relieve her of her virginity. The following fic takes place the following night. Well written stuff!
Thanks!
Sorry I told you that you could post that question and then I didn't actually respond to it :) I THINK the story you are thinking of is called Just Friends by Cindy Olsen and then I think More Than Friends was the follow up. Unfortunately I don't think any of the old wayback tricks work to get to those stories, where they were posted on the old Corellian Embassy. I'll take a look later though and see if I can figure it out. But as of now I'm not sure you can access those stories.
DeleteThat said, she has been posting her old stories on ff.net under the name Corellian Blue, and I hope eventually she will get to those and include those on there. Or it might even be worth sending her a private message to see if she would be willing to send them to you.
I think you're right! Those titles sound familiar. Thank you so much!
DeleteSuch a shame that the Corellian Embassy (the Some Rescue era one) isn't accessible any more. I discovered the Way Back Machine a few years ago and had a blast rediscovering my favorite fics, and regret not downloading them when that little voice in my head warned "this will not last forever." I did manage to save a few (a bunch, really, all for personal use and no redistribution of course) but not those particular ones.
Great to see that Cindy / Corellian Blue has posting on ff.net. Looks like she's really giving her previous works some thorough edits. Fingers crossed those two are reposted soon!
I might possibly have those two fics downloaded. I feel like I've read them really recently and I couldn't have if I didn't have them saved somewhere.
DeleteI keep thinking that, at some point, I'm going to have to go into media blackout. I don't want to be tempted with major spoilers if they come out right before the opening. And I also feel like I need to clense my palette a bit. Maybe watch ROTJ, re-read some of the new books that have come out recently.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of recent books, I have a question for everyone about Moving Target. Regarding the line discussed above, I inferred that Leia was referring to the people of the Alliance as a whole, like--"we as a community, what committment do we have to one another?" Did anyone else read it that way?
I'm having trouble replying to specific comments. Anyway, I have had the same thoughts about media blackout. I'm so worried I'm going to see something I don't want to see without even really trying to see it. I'm not sure I'll be able to do it though. I mean, I want to watch the hoopla of the big premiere and stuff. I don't think I can stay away, but I'll have to avoid forums and stuff I think. And to warn all of you, I will myself not be able to keep quiet once I have seen it, so once I see it, you will see something here. So if you do no see it before me, stay away from here on the night of December 17th until whenever it is that you get to see it.
ReplyDeleteFor the books, I don't know what specifically she is referring to when saying things like "we" and "each other."
Oh and to your other comment above about Han dying, I feel the same way, I'm basically preparing myself for this being it. I'm going to sob uncontrollably either way really.
I got an EW finally. That nice big picture of Han is... well, nice. I wound up with a Rey cover, because I finally saw it at the store and they only had 2 copies of the magazine at all, and both were Rey, and really it is the picture INSIDE of Han that is the one I really want. So I compromised. Wow this movie is close.
ReplyDeleteThere's a new picture of Han and Leia on the internet (2 separate photos of them) & a link to the possible children's Force Awakens book that has a picture of Han and Leia in it. Would you like those links?
ReplyDeleteAlso, I bought the EW magazine with Han in Barnes & Noble.
Just giving you a heads up...If you want that link to Han and Leia in the children's book, it does contain possible spoilers. I'll understand if you don't want it. :)
ReplyDelete"possible spoilers" or outright "OMG this explains everything!"? I guess post it, say in the post to the link that it has possible spoilers, and maybe we will look. I'll warn you I have not decided if I'll look (I probably will) and I haven't decided if we'll talk about it either but I think at least post the link.
DeleteAlso, if the spoiler might make me sad, maybe don't post it. But if it will make me happy, then yeah probably post it :)
DeleteLOL Zyra you crack me up
DeleteWith the way Disney/Abrams has kept such a tight lid on any details, I can't imagine the powers-that-be would release anything that would provide any definitive info...that's just my opinion, though ;)
ReplyDeleteWell, I caved and I looked on the internet( not like that is Gospel truth, lol)
ReplyDeletethe article I read mentioned that a few pages from a children's book "may" have been copied, and contained some plot overview of episode seven. Well I from what I read, their were no spoilers in terms of Han and Leia's relationship...who knows anyway how accurate any of this stuff is...
JeanMarie is right. It's not a spoiler about Han/Leia, just a spoiler about the general plot. It's cute how Leia and Han are illustrated. Han has a really funny look on his face.
ReplyDeleteThere still are those new pics of Han and Leia that are in Times Square, though.
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ReplyDeleteSo we are watching ESB tonight. My son chose to PAUSE the movie at the exact moment Leia said "would you please stop calling me that?" in the circuitry bay and announce a popcorn break. my daughter promptly turned to him and said, "Seriously?" And the boy was clueless what he'd done. (I should point out that his father was equally confused). It's obvious which member of my family knows me the best.
ReplyDeletehave you all seen Harrison's video for the Force For Change campaign?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mjYjMxZJCg
It's great! Love when he said "what do you mean old?" The weirdest thing about the whole thing is Padme being someone's favorite Star Wars character!
DeleteOh yeah I definitely saw that. So awesome. But you're totally right when the girl said her favorite character was Padme I was like, "You don't deserve to talk to Harrison!!!!" He looked like he had a lot of fun with that. I absolutely loved when he held the young Han Solo face in front of his own face, and then when he told that one girl she could do much better than her "boyfriend" Chewbacca. Seriously, does anyone else feel like someone has taken over his body or something? 25 years ago I think he would've said he'd rather have died in the plane crash than have to do stuff like this.
DeleteSince the San Diego comic-con star wars panel, we can see a much more grateful, smiling and open Harrison Ford towards Han Solo and the whole Star Wars legacy. I'm glad of it! God I wish he would have skyped me....sigh
DeleteHa ha, that's so funny, I thought the same thing about the "Padme" pick. I mean, really?! It's like standing in front of a big delicious buffet of all these great foods, and when asked to pick you're favorite you're like "I'll take the rice cake."
Deletehe was obviously having a lot of fun with it, and really genuine.
DeleteI saw the video, too. Harrison has really softened over the years about Star Wars and Han Solo.
ReplyDeleteAlso, there is a great Saturday Night Live video with J.J. Abrams, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, and other non-Star Wars featuring fake Star Wars videos. So funny...
Great to see Harrison Ford at the American music awards!
ReplyDeleteI loved the singing & videos played at the AMA. Lots of Han and Leia were shown.
ReplyDeleteAnother note to my American readers, tonight on Jimmy Kimmel they are having a bunch of the cast on, and that includes BOTH Harrison and Carrie! Don't miss that, I already have my DVR set. I will probably do a separate post for that, because the comments section on this post is getting ridiculously long and I'm just going to assume it will be awesome enough to warrant its own post.
ReplyDeleteThe clips and the music were fun last night, as was seeing Harrison, who just keeps on looking so good.
I was just going to post that Kimmel info here.
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